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		<title>By: When You Refuse To Take Care of Yourself, You Are Refusing To Take Care of Those Around You</title>
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		<dc:creator>When You Refuse To Take Care of Yourself, You Are Refusing To Take Care of Those Around You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The reality: You must learn how to take care of your self (aka self-care). You must learn how to say no to certain things. Even what seems like good things. You must create margins of space in your life where you can breathe and be FULLY present to others. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The reality: You must learn how to take care of your self (aka self-care). You must learn how to say no to certain things. Even what seems like good things. You must create margins of space in your life where you can breathe and be FULLY present to others. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hello, You There? Seriously? &#8211; Practicing the Art of Being Fully Present - ChurchCrunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hello, You There? Seriously? &#8211; Practicing the Art of Being Fully Present - ChurchCrunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not &#8220;personal&#8221; but I love the fact that he blogs about this stuff!) wrote a post the other day about it that knocked me to my knees about this issue, especially this quote from Nouwen: Nouwen gave [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not &#8220;personal&#8221; but I love the fact that he blogs about this stuff!) wrote a post the other day about it that knocked me to my knees about this issue, especially this quote from Nouwen: Nouwen gave [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fortuitous Bouncing &#171; Man of Depravity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fortuitous Bouncing &#171; Man of Depravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Are you able to be fully present with others? A good challenge from Rhett Smith. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rhett Smith</title>
		<link>http://rhettsmith.com/2009/09/are-you-able-to-be-fully-present-to-others/comment-page-1/#comment-7887</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhett Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah,

Thanks for commenting.  Yep, it is hard. We try our best to leave our phones in the car when we can.  

By the way...you should get some kind of surprise for being the first to leave a comment since I added the CommentLuv commenting system last night :-)  But I don&#039;t have any good prizes.
.-= Rhett Smith&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/rhettsmith/~3/CUAscXjt0vs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Are You Able To Be FULLY Present To Others?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah,</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting.  Yep, it is hard. We try our best to leave our phones in the car when we can.  </p>
<p>By the way&#8230;you should get some kind of surprise for being the first to leave a comment since I added the CommentLuv commenting system last night <img src='http://rhettsmith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   But I don&#8217;t have any good prizes.<br />
.-= Rhett Smith&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/rhettsmith/~3/CUAscXjt0vs/" rel="nofollow">Are You Able To Be FULLY Present To Others?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Markley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Markley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great.  I leave my phone in the car when I take my kids to the playground. I try to unplug in the evening, even charging my phone upstairs so I won&#039;t even be tempted.

I totally agree with you. I hate the noise sometimes. 

Great post.  Well said.  It&#039;s hard, though.
.-= Sarah Markley&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SarahMarkley/~3/yLcRWsYS0LY/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Manna&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great.  I leave my phone in the car when I take my kids to the playground. I try to unplug in the evening, even charging my phone upstairs so I won&#8217;t even be tempted.</p>
<p>I totally agree with you. I hate the noise sometimes. </p>
<p>Great post.  Well said.  It&#8217;s hard, though.<br />
.-= Sarah Markley&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SarahMarkley/~3/yLcRWsYS0LY/" rel="nofollow">Manna</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhett Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhett Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lars,

Hey, that made me laugh out loud...funny.  I agree, if you can focus on that person and not on the others streams than I think one can be fully present.

Katie,

Yeah, sometimes I wonder if what I&#039;m used to (handling lots of noise and various streams) is good for me or if I&#039;m sacrificing something and losing out on what may be important.

Rhett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lars,</p>
<p>Hey, that made me laugh out loud&#8230;funny.  I agree, if you can focus on that person and not on the others streams than I think one can be fully present.</p>
<p>Katie,</p>
<p>Yeah, sometimes I wonder if what I&#8217;m used to (handling lots of noise and various streams) is good for me or if I&#8217;m sacrificing something and losing out on what may be important.</p>
<p>Rhett</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad we are on the same page, Rhett. I would agree that being fully present is at the heart whether it&#039;s online or offline. And I am guilty of many of the things on the list you gave. Perhaps unfortunately, however, because my world has always been that way it seems normal to me. I go back and forth between thinking it&#039;s something that needs to be changed and it&#039;s simply a fact of things changing and is the world we live in now so we&#039;ve got to embrace it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad we are on the same page, Rhett. I would agree that being fully present is at the heart whether it&#8217;s online or offline. And I am guilty of many of the things on the list you gave. Perhaps unfortunately, however, because my world has always been that way it seems normal to me. I go back and forth between thinking it&#8217;s something that needs to be changed and it&#8217;s simply a fact of things changing and is the world we live in now so we&#8217;ve got to embrace it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhett-  My phone beeped as I typed this while I listened to my wife talk to our son upstairs about while he needs to go to bed and my dog chewed a pencil by my foot.  I&#039;m with you completely on the idea of presence.  It&#039;s a huge struggle area for me as one who has become increasingly more of a multi-tasker yet also less of a producer.  I do agree with you that I can be present with you online if that is the commitment to just you and not to you and all my other streams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhett-  My phone beeped as I typed this while I listened to my wife talk to our son upstairs about while he needs to go to bed and my dog chewed a pencil by my foot.  I&#8217;m with you completely on the idea of presence.  It&#8217;s a huge struggle area for me as one who has become increasingly more of a multi-tasker yet also less of a producer.  I do agree with you that I can be present with you online if that is the commitment to just you and not to you and all my other streams.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhett Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhett Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben:  Yeah, I know that can be frustrating when trying to have a conversation with someone and they are always looking at their phone.  Doesn&#039;t make one feel very valuable.  Sorry we didn&#039;t get to spend more time chatting that weekend as well.  Very busy weekend.

John: Very nice...how long did it take you to come up with that.

John L: Thanks for your thoughts. I like the idea of adding to a &quot;generative conversation&quot; as you put it.  There seems to be a lot of value in that for everyone involved.  Takes a lot more thought as well to post and contribute than to fire a tweet off....

Tyler: I will definitely check out your post...would love to hear more about what you learned on your 9 days off.

Katie: Thanks for posting.  I appreciate your thoughts.  First of all, let me say, I totally love online community, and this post isn&#039;t aimed at online community, but more the ability to be fully present with people, whether they are online or not online.  I probably didn&#039;t make that very clear, especially as my examples involve the way we allow technology to interrupt our ability to be fully present with people.  But I have had the privilege to do some online ministry with LifeChurch.tv and Tony Steward, and I&#039;m a big fan and believe in it.

I also know that many people don&#039;t care if others Twitter while they are talking to someone.  I often don&#039;t care as well...it depends on the conversation for me.  But the more and more I read, and the more I have been able to hang out with John Dyer (www.donteatthefruit.com) I am really starting to learn that there is a trade off. Sure we can twitter while we talk to others, text, talk on the phone...but what are we losing out on?  It&#039;s not good or bad, but we sacrifice something.  So we have to ask ourselves what are we losing out on.  I did a presentation with John Dyer and Lars Rood the other night for parents on teens and technology and I&#039;m aware that technology has always existed for many age groups.  That&#039;s what they know....but we still sacrifice things.  Something to think about.

I like what you are saying about ECHO.  I was there as well, and I&#039;m also new to Dallas (been here a year).  Some of my best relationships are with people that I met online via Twitter, my blog, or Facebook.....I think what you are referring to and getting at is what others refer to &quot;ambient intimacy&quot; or &quot;ambient awareness.&quot;  (http://rhettsmith.com/2009/06/29/creating-relational-intimacy-through-the-sharing-of-minor-details-in-life/)  And I think that&#039;s the real value we get in online communication.

So setting boundaries is really the key I think. I love online community and want to see it thrive.  

I believe that one can be fully present to someone online, as well as being fully present offline.  So the issue is not that, but rather we are losing our capacity to focus and do that because we are so used to all the technologies, distractions, multi-tasking, etc.  All of my examples were about people missing out on those people right there in front of them.  

Agree...it&#039;s about balance.....about being able to shut it down and use boundaries when need be.  And about being okay with what we are losing out on.  If we aren&#039;t, then we have to re-assess.

I really like your thoughts...thx for sharing them.

Rhett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben:  Yeah, I know that can be frustrating when trying to have a conversation with someone and they are always looking at their phone.  Doesn&#8217;t make one feel very valuable.  Sorry we didn&#8217;t get to spend more time chatting that weekend as well.  Very busy weekend.</p>
<p>John: Very nice&#8230;how long did it take you to come up with that.</p>
<p>John L: Thanks for your thoughts. I like the idea of adding to a &#8220;generative conversation&#8221; as you put it.  There seems to be a lot of value in that for everyone involved.  Takes a lot more thought as well to post and contribute than to fire a tweet off&#8230;.</p>
<p>Tyler: I will definitely check out your post&#8230;would love to hear more about what you learned on your 9 days off.</p>
<p>Katie: Thanks for posting.  I appreciate your thoughts.  First of all, let me say, I totally love online community, and this post isn&#8217;t aimed at online community, but more the ability to be fully present with people, whether they are online or not online.  I probably didn&#8217;t make that very clear, especially as my examples involve the way we allow technology to interrupt our ability to be fully present with people.  But I have had the privilege to do some online ministry with LifeChurch.tv and Tony Steward, and I&#8217;m a big fan and believe in it.</p>
<p>I also know that many people don&#8217;t care if others Twitter while they are talking to someone.  I often don&#8217;t care as well&#8230;it depends on the conversation for me.  But the more and more I read, and the more I have been able to hang out with John Dyer (www.donteatthefruit.com) I am really starting to learn that there is a trade off. Sure we can twitter while we talk to others, text, talk on the phone&#8230;but what are we losing out on?  It&#8217;s not good or bad, but we sacrifice something.  So we have to ask ourselves what are we losing out on.  I did a presentation with John Dyer and Lars Rood the other night for parents on teens and technology and I&#8217;m aware that technology has always existed for many age groups.  That&#8217;s what they know&#8230;.but we still sacrifice things.  Something to think about.</p>
<p>I like what you are saying about ECHO.  I was there as well, and I&#8217;m also new to Dallas (been here a year).  Some of my best relationships are with people that I met online via Twitter, my blog, or Facebook&#8230;..I think what you are referring to and getting at is what others refer to &#8220;ambient intimacy&#8221; or &#8220;ambient awareness.&#8221;  (<a href="http://rhettsmith.com/2009/06/29/creating-relational-intimacy-through-the-sharing-of-minor-details-in-life/" rel="nofollow">http://rhettsmith.com/2009/06/29/creating-relational-intimacy-through-the-sharing-of-minor-details-in-life/</a>)  And I think that&#8217;s the real value we get in online communication.</p>
<p>So setting boundaries is really the key I think. I love online community and want to see it thrive.  </p>
<p>I believe that one can be fully present to someone online, as well as being fully present offline.  So the issue is not that, but rather we are losing our capacity to focus and do that because we are so used to all the technologies, distractions, multi-tasking, etc.  All of my examples were about people missing out on those people right there in front of them.  </p>
<p>Agree&#8230;it&#8217;s about balance&#8230;..about being able to shut it down and use boundaries when need be.  And about being okay with what we are losing out on.  If we aren&#8217;t, then we have to re-assess.</p>
<p>I really like your thoughts&#8230;thx for sharing them.</p>
<p>Rhett</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to take the other side of this. While I can completely understand the points made in the post and somewhat agree, I also wholeheartedly believe in online community. Through mediums such as twitter I have built relationships and been able to be virtually fully present with people I otherwise never would have had the chance to. I am able to pray for and with them. I am able to rejoice in their triumphs and offer support and encouragement during struggles.

Also, being from a somewhat younger generation, I am not at all offended when people twitter or what not while carrying on a face to face conversation with me as long as I feel they are paying attention to me as well. Some people excel at that while others need a bit of practice. 

The Echo Conference in Dallas earlier this year was a great example of the power of online community and conversation for me. I felt that people were entirely present in the here and now real world of the conference but there was also another awesome level of interactivity and communication that took place on twitter. Many of those conversations were taken offline and melded &quot;online noise&quot; with &quot;real life noise&quot; in a phenomenal way. I don&#039;t think the two always have to compete. I think they can be complements to each other. Perhaps your thoughts about setting boundaries get people to that point. 

And as for me, in online interactions I&#039;ve had with people whether via twitter, facebook or email others have been able to make me feel like they&#039;re communicating with the most important person in the world. 

I think ultimately it&#039;s all about balance and not letting one overtake the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to take the other side of this. While I can completely understand the points made in the post and somewhat agree, I also wholeheartedly believe in online community. Through mediums such as twitter I have built relationships and been able to be virtually fully present with people I otherwise never would have had the chance to. I am able to pray for and with them. I am able to rejoice in their triumphs and offer support and encouragement during struggles.</p>
<p>Also, being from a somewhat younger generation, I am not at all offended when people twitter or what not while carrying on a face to face conversation with me as long as I feel they are paying attention to me as well. Some people excel at that while others need a bit of practice. </p>
<p>The Echo Conference in Dallas earlier this year was a great example of the power of online community and conversation for me. I felt that people were entirely present in the here and now real world of the conference but there was also another awesome level of interactivity and communication that took place on twitter. Many of those conversations were taken offline and melded &#8220;online noise&#8221; with &#8220;real life noise&#8221; in a phenomenal way. I don&#8217;t think the two always have to compete. I think they can be complements to each other. Perhaps your thoughts about setting boundaries get people to that point. </p>
<p>And as for me, in online interactions I&#8217;ve had with people whether via twitter, facebook or email others have been able to make me feel like they&#8217;re communicating with the most important person in the world. </p>
<p>I think ultimately it&#8217;s all about balance and not letting one overtake the other.</p>
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