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	<title>Comments on: Exploring the Online Characteristics of Generation F/Y, and Their Implications-Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: How The Church Can Lose Young Leaders &#171; Man of Depravity</title>
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		<dc:creator>How The Church Can Lose Young Leaders &#171; Man of Depravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rhett Smith recently dove into one of the points the article brought out: All ideas compete on equal footing. I really love what Rhett had to say about this subject and I think it is a common situation at many churches. Now, if you have spent anytime in the Church…on staff, volunteering, or just attending, this becomes pretty obvious, pretty quickly. Not all ideas compete on equal footing, and often many ideas aren’t even allowed to enter the conversation. Where I have often seen this played out is in the ideas between staff/church members of different “ranking”, i.e. ordained vs. non-ordained, associate vs. executive, senior pastor vs. youth pastor, volunteer vs. staff, etc. Though this is not to become a versus situation, it often breaks down into that when ideas are not allowed to be shared and considered equally among all staff members, volunteers and attending members. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rhett Smith recently dove into one of the points the article brought out: All ideas compete on equal footing. I really love what Rhett had to say about this subject and I think it is a common situation at many churches. Now, if you have spent anytime in the Church…on staff, volunteering, or just attending, this becomes pretty obvious, pretty quickly. Not all ideas compete on equal footing, and often many ideas aren’t even allowed to enter the conversation. Where I have often seen this played out is in the ideas between staff/church members of different “ranking”, i.e. ordained vs. non-ordained, associate vs. executive, senior pastor vs. youth pastor, volunteer vs. staff, etc. Though this is not to become a versus situation, it often breaks down into that when ideas are not allowed to be shared and considered equally among all staff members, volunteers and attending members. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Exploring the Online Characteristics of Generation F/Y, and Their Implications-Part 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exploring the Online Characteristics of Generation F/Y, and Their Implications-Part 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] = &#039;compact&#039;;  [image by jakeoneil]  Last week I posted Exploring the Online Characteristics of Generation F/Y, and Their Implications-Part 1. This series was born out of my fascination with the great article, The Facebook Generation vs. the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] = &#39;compact&#39;;  [image by jakeoneil]  Last week I posted Exploring the Online Characteristics of Generation F/Y, and Their Implications-Part 1. This series was born out of my fascination with the great article, The Facebook Generation vs. the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Benson Hines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benson Hines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without a doubt! I definitely, definitely think churches need to make this adjustment (and probably all the adjustments you&#039;ll be mentioning in your posts). 
 
But while churches are figuring out the need to do this, fortunately there may be half-measures that ministers (like youth, college, and young adult ministers) can use to provide some encouragement to the Millennials who feel this tension - while hopefully we&#039;re also working toward change so half-measures are no longer needed. 
 
On this post&#039;s topic specifically, I&#039;ve been saying for awhile that the church business meeting might actually be a surprising &quot;draw&quot; for Millennials - they want to be involved, they want to know what&#039;s going on, etc. Obviously, the way churches DO the business meeting may not jive with these hip cats, but the idea of the meeting itself (in churches that have them) could actually be quite appealing. 
 
And of course, if all Millennials in a church started attending its business meetings, some changes might indeed come sooner rather than later... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without a doubt! I definitely, definitely think churches need to make this adjustment (and probably all the adjustments you&#039;ll be mentioning in your posts). </p>
<p>But while churches are figuring out the need to do this, fortunately there may be half-measures that ministers (like youth, college, and young adult ministers) can use to provide some encouragement to the Millennials who feel this tension &#8211; while hopefully we&#039;re also working toward change so half-measures are no longer needed. </p>
<p>On this post&#039;s topic specifically, I&#039;ve been saying for awhile that the church business meeting might actually be a surprising &quot;draw&quot; for Millennials &#8211; they want to be involved, they want to know what&#039;s going on, etc. Obviously, the way churches DO the business meeting may not jive with these hip cats, but the idea of the meeting itself (in churches that have them) could actually be quite appealing. </p>
<p>And of course, if all Millennials in a church started attending its business meetings, some changes might indeed come sooner rather than later&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rhettsmith</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benson, 
 
As you mentioned in the other post, this is an important topic, especially as we have worked with college students a lot.  This is part of who they are. 
 
I like your suggestion about reporting to the traditional, hierarchical structures.  I know you have been traveling extensively across the US visiting all kinds of churches, so I know you probably have a good sense of this.  I agree not all churches are ready for this...but ready or not, I think it&#039;s here, or is at least knocking on the door. 
 
And though it may not necessarily be the ethos for people on staff in all churches, I bet it&#039;s a growing feeling in the congregations themselves. 
 
Thoughts? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benson, </p>
<p>As you mentioned in the other post, this is an important topic, especially as we have worked with college students a lot.  This is part of who they are. </p>
<p>I like your suggestion about reporting to the traditional, hierarchical structures.  I know you have been traveling extensively across the US visiting all kinds of churches, so I know you probably have a good sense of this.  I agree not all churches are ready for this&#8230;but ready or not, I think it&#039;s here, or is at least knocking on the door. </p>
<p>And though it may not necessarily be the ethos for people on staff in all churches, I bet it&#039;s a growing feeling in the congregations themselves. </p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Benson Hines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benson Hines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know for some churches who aren&#039;t ready for all-out, everything goes method of sharing ideas from the younger generations, individual ministries could hold forums on their own. A college ministry, youth ministry, or young adult ministry could let their individuals speak openly in this way... and then the leaders can report on the results to upper leaders. 
 
This may not be the most ideal solution, but it certainly could be more workable for more traditional, hierarchical churches. And I bet leaders in those kinds of churches will listen to GROUPS of people, even if they&#039;re not as open to individual ideas as they should be. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know for some churches who aren&#039;t ready for all-out, everything goes method of sharing ideas from the younger generations, individual ministries could hold forums on their own. A college ministry, youth ministry, or young adult ministry could let their individuals speak openly in this way&#8230; and then the leaders can report on the results to upper leaders. </p>
<p>This may not be the most ideal solution, but it certainly could be more workable for more traditional, hierarchical churches. And I bet leaders in those kinds of churches will listen to GROUPS of people, even if they&#039;re not as open to individual ideas as they should be.</p>
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