Comments on: Dealing with the criticisms of Emergent… http://rhettsmith.com/2008/02/dealing-with-the-criticisms-of-emergent/ Thu, 10 May 2012 14:59:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Adam Groza http://rhettsmith.com/2008/02/dealing-with-the-criticisms-of-emergent/comment-page-1/#comment-1830 Adam Groza Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:18:43 +0000 http://www.rhettsmith.com/?p=838#comment-1830 Thanks for the post Rhett. I have been thinking about this since you posted it and have come to the conclusion that the emergent folks should bear some responsibility for the percieved weaknesses of criticisms. I know in philosophy, if you present a paper and someone dissagrees you at least are affirmed in knowing your argument made enough sense for them to follow and level a criticism. I think their are two kinds of people in the emergent criticism business. The first kind are modernists troubled at the very idea of asking questions or admitting doubts. I would put McArthur in this camp, although with great respect for him. The second kind are people who generally want to understand emergent ideas but find very little being put on the table, so to speak. Just being honest, I read voices in the emergent movement and was baffled. I have tried reading Mclaren and Bell and am unsure as to what argument is being made. Lots of questions but little assertion. It's not that I necessarily dissagree with emergent, but that I havent found an argument for emergent ideas worth taking seriously in that I dont know what is being suggested. So I can't criticize, because if I did everyone would probably say "ah, your criticisms are lame" but my point is that maybe this reflects on the coherence of the movement itself. So is there a good book or article on the key ideas set forh in the movement? I know, I know, its not a movement :) Thanks for the post Rhett. I have been thinking about this since you posted it and have come to the conclusion that the emergent folks should bear some responsibility for the percieved weaknesses of criticisms. I know in philosophy, if you present a paper and someone dissagrees you at least are affirmed in knowing your argument made enough sense for them to follow and level a criticism. I think their are two kinds of people in the emergent criticism business. The first kind are modernists troubled at the very idea of asking questions or admitting doubts. I would put McArthur in this camp, although with great respect for him. The second kind are people who generally want to understand emergent ideas but find very little being put on the table, so to speak. Just being honest, I read voices in the emergent movement and was baffled. I have tried reading Mclaren and Bell and am unsure as to what argument is being made. Lots of questions but little assertion. It’s not that I necessarily dissagree with emergent, but that I havent found an argument for emergent ideas worth taking seriously in that I dont know what is being suggested. So I can’t criticize, because if I did everyone would probably say “ah, your criticisms are lame” but my point is that maybe this reflects on the coherence of the movement itself. So is there a good book or article on the key ideas set forh in the movement? I know, I know, its not a movement :)

]]> By: josh king http://rhettsmith.com/2008/02/dealing-with-the-criticisms-of-emergent/comment-page-1/#comment-1829 josh king Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:50:26 +0000 http://www.rhettsmith.com/?p=838#comment-1829 cool link. thanks. cool link. thanks.

]]> By: Roger Overton http://rhettsmith.com/2008/02/dealing-with-the-criticisms-of-emergent/comment-page-1/#comment-1823 Roger Overton Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:41:44 +0000 http://www.rhettsmith.com/?p=838#comment-1823 I dunno, after he rudely refers to D.A. Carson as a "crazy, old school guy" and so on, it's difficult to take anything he says seriously. I dunno, after he rudely refers to D.A. Carson as a “crazy, old school guy” and so on, it’s difficult to take anything he says seriously.

]]> By: Roger Overton http://rhettsmith.com/2008/02/dealing-with-the-criticisms-of-emergent/comment-page-1/#comment-1828 Roger Overton Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:41:44 +0000 http://www.rhettsmith.com/?p=838#comment-1828 I dunno, after he rudely refers to D.A. Carson as a "crazy, old school guy" and so on, it's difficult to take anything he says seriously. I dunno, after he rudely refers to D.A. Carson as a “crazy, old school guy” and so on, it’s difficult to take anything he says seriously.

]]> By: Rhett http://rhettsmith.com/2008/02/dealing-with-the-criticisms-of-emergent/comment-page-1/#comment-1822 Rhett Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:22:26 +0000 http://www.rhettsmith.com/?p=838#comment-1822 thanks...i can't take credit for site design...my friend Mike Trozzo gets the credit.. good posts thanks…i can’t take credit for site design…my friend Mike Trozzo gets the credit..

good posts

]]> By: josh http://rhettsmith.com/2008/02/dealing-with-the-criticisms-of-emergent/comment-page-1/#comment-1821 josh Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:19:25 +0000 http://www.rhettsmith.com/?p=838#comment-1821 thanks for the link dude. nice site design by the way. thanks for the link dude. nice site design by the way.

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