Archive - September, 2006

Scot McKnight: Women in Ministry Series Begins

Scot McKnight just posted his first entry in a series on women and ministry. I posted about this last week, and am excited to watch, read and be a part of this discussion. Read Scot’s first post today, titled, Woman in Ministry

Scot begins:

This will be the first in a series of posts on women in ministry– as long as everyone behaves. Some of these will pertain to specific issues women face who are in ministries, some will be about biblical texts and themes, and yet others will be about theological issues. The number of issues we could converse about is so vast that I’m not sure how even to begin. What I chose to do was begin with someone who ministered: Mary, mother of Jesus.

Not just because I’ve spent a lot of time with her of late, but because in Mary we find someone who “ministered” and she’s not connected to some controversial “ordination” text. Sometimes we get lock into deductive logic: we look at a text– sometimes disputed–from the NT and then we infer the limits of practice; other times we need to look at practice itself as exhibited by women in pages of the NT and then see those texts in light of those practices. Well, enough of that.

What do you think we can learn from Mary about “women in ministry”?

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Very Strange Part 2: Jesus Camp

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My friend told me to check out the trailer of the new indie/documentary movie called Jesus Camp. But he told me to make sure I was on the phone with him when I watched the trailer because he wanted to process it with me. I knew that couldn’t be good.

Watch the trailer for yourself. And see what Wikipedia says about it.

It’s never good when one group of people is judged to be one way because of the behavior of some of its members, whether they are fringe or not.

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Very Strange Part 1: The Name Jesus Deleted Out of the Killers’ Song?

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On Sunday night my wife and I were at the movies at The Grove in Los Angeles. And we showed up about 30 minutes before showtime so we decided to go grab our seats early. And as we were sitting there the theatre was scrolling through all the advertisements on screen and playing music in the theatre. Pretty normal stuff for theatre going. Then as we were listening to the music the Las Vegas band The Killers began playing their hit song When You Were Young. Here are the opening lines of the song:

“You sit there in your heartache, waiting on some beautiful boy to save you from your old ways”.

“He doesn’t look a thing like Jesus, But he talks like a gentlemen, Like you imagined when you were young”.

Why am I telling you this? Not because I think it’s some Christian song, or some instance where a secular band gets it right, or because I think it’s cool that they mention Jesus in their song. Rather, I’m telling you this because everytime they mentioned the name “Jesus” in the song it was deleted out from the music. Bleeped out, whatever you want to call it. When Jesus’ name was supposed to be in the song you got nothing instead…silence, then a pickup with the words following it. This wasn’t a band editing their work, but the movie theatre, or some other powers that be.

So weird. Why would that happen? Is it the theatre? It’s not some proclamation from some Christian band that the secularists would fear being allowed to play in the theatre. My wife and I thought we were hearing things, or in this case, not hearing things. But no, we listened to the whole song closely, and every instance of the name “Jesus” was taken out.

Very strange. I wish I could shed some light on this, but I can’t. I just wanted to share. I like the song so I was wondering why it would have been edited.

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Remembering 9/11: Some thoughts from C.S. Lewis on Learning in War-Time

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Five years ago this morning I was still in bed around 7:30am Pacific Time when I received a phone call. I decided to let my “old school” message machine pick it up. As the the phone stopped ringing and the person began to leave the message I heard my younger cousin Marielle leave the message, “Rhett, I was just calling to make sure Wyatt is okay. Call me back!” I was laying there in bed thinking to myself, “Why would Wyatt my brother not be okay.” So I got up immediately and called my cousin who was in her high school class. She answered the phone and I asked, “What are you talking about?” Then she began to relay to me the horrible news of the attacks on the World Trade Center. I could not believe what was coming out of her mouth, so I immediately ran to the TV and watched the horror unfold.

My brother Wyatt lives in Washington D.C. and I called him right away, but I could not get through because the cell phone lines were not working. I called and called all day long until I finally got a hold of him late into the night, making sure he was okay. I spent the next couple of days in front of the TV on September 11th and 12th, and probably even the days after that. Nothing made sense.

I had just moved to Pasadena from Arizona to finish up my Master of Divinity degree that I had started at the Fuller Seminary extension in Phoenix and was completing in Pasadena. The last few months before that move had been some of the best times of my life. I had lived in Guatemala from mid-March to mid-June, studying Spanish, doing volunteer work and traveling through Central America by bus. I had then traveled through Syria, Jordan and Israel with classmates and friends from Fuller. It was an amazing time. And all of this had culminated in my move to Pasadena. And now, nothing seemed to matter at all. Not school. Not vocations. Not traveling. Only family and friends.

I remember spending the next few days pondering what I should do. School barely seemed to matter now in light of what was happening in the world. As I prayed and thought about what to do next with my life, though I knew I was going to stay in Pasadena, I still needed to try and make sense of things if that was possible. Making sense of things was really not possible, but I went to the Fuller bookstore and picked up a book to try and help me understand why I should still study in a time like this. The book was Weight of Glory by C.S. Lewis, which contained the essay, “Learning in War-time. In it, Lewis says,

A university is a society for the pursuit of learning. As students, you will be expected to make yourselves…into what the Middle Ages called clerks: into philosophers, scientists, scholars, critics or historians. And at first sight this seems to be an odd thing to do during a great war.

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War makes death real to us, and that would have been regarded as one of its blessings by most of the great Christians of the past…. All the animal life in us, all schemes of happiness that centered on this world, were always doomed to a final frustration. In ordinary times only a wise man can realize it. Now the stupidest of us knows. We see unmistakably the sort of universe in which we have all along been living, and must come to terms with it. If we had foolish un-Christian hopes about human culture, they are now shattered.

Five years later have come and passed and I can hardly believe it. Where has the time gone? How easy it is to forget what happened five years ago. Lord we pray in times like these,

Psalm 23
A psalm of David.
1 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not be in want.

2 He makes me lie down in green pastures,
he leads me beside quiet waters,

3 he restores my soul.
He guides me in paths of righteousness
for his name’s sake.

4 Even though I walk
through the valley of the shadow of death, [a]
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.

5 You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.

6 Surely goodness and love will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
forever.

College Students and Vocation: Which road should I take?

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One of the things that I enjoy most about working with college students is the very real and intense transitional phase of life they find themselves in during the college years. It is a very exciting time with life changing questions and decisions, and I can’t think of any other phase of ministry that is exciting as this one…for me at least.

The question of vocation comes up quite a bit during those 4-5 years. Students often change majors several times trying to find what fits best. Students often graduate with a major they are no longer passionate about. Students often study and graduate in a discipline that they don’t intend to use, but it got them the diploma they wanted.

Often, working here in Los Angeles, I have many students who come out to go to school to earn a degree because they feel that’s what they are supposed to do. Or a lot of the time the pressure comes from the parents. But a few years into their education they feel unmotivated and not excited or passionate about what they are studying, and they pursue something else. This happens with many of my students who enter the entertainment industry and pursue music, acting, modeling, dancing, et cetera, full-time. That’s what they had always been passionate about, but that wasn’t the “respectable” thing to do, or the “responsible” thing to do. Parents often push kids towards what is practical, though what is practical is a lot of the times what we are not very passionate about.

What should I do with my life? What is God’s will for my life? Those are huge questions and ones that I have tackled at other times, but one’s I will need to post on again. Scot McKnight posted a couple of blogs on Vocational Angst, especially as it relates to college students, and he also posted on Vocational Angst as it relates to conversion to Jesus Christ and a possible shift in vocations because of it.

Scot mentions the book Let Your Life Speak: Listening for the Voice of Vocation by Parker Palmer in his post. That book is phenomenal and a must read when it comes to the issue of vocation and finding God’s will for that area of your life. I highly recommend it to all of my students every year.

Women in Ministry discussion…

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Scot McKnight has posted two blog entries recently on Women in Ministry. You can find them here and here. And with a combined 283 comments so far on these two posts, one can see this is going to be a much read series. Here are Scot’s basic ground rules for this discussion:

Here it is: I’d like to begin a weekly (or bi-weekly) discussion about women in ministry but what we are in need of is a list of topics to discuss. If we can establish civility in conversation about a variety of specific topics, then I will eventually do a series on the issue of women, ordination/etc, and the Bible, looking particularly at the cultural arguments. Let’s begin with some other topics.

What would you like to see discussed? What are some topics?

Ground rule: As with last week, if you are opposed to women in ministry, then skip this discussion and listen in. Eventually maybe we’ll get to your topics of interest.

I am excited about this discussion. I have posted on this issue many times on my blog, but it fails to usually bear any fruit, and rather quickly turns into an us against them debate. Though I work in a PCUSA church, my pro-women in ministry belief probably developed in my early twenties and was in place by the time I graduated from Fuller Theological Seminary. In fact, that was one of the overwhelming reasons I chose Fuller, because of its inclusivity of women in ministry, as well as Fuller’s very diverse and international student population. So I am interested to see what comes of this discussion, and I am glad to see someone like Scot do this in a positive way.

Boulder Weekend and Breast Cancer….

I haven’t had anytime to blog over the last 4-5 days because I was away in Boulder, Colorado over the Labor Day weekend performing a wedding. I absolutely loved Boulder, and it was very nice to get away from Los Angeles, from a big city, from the traffic, and away from emails, internet, computers, etc. It takes a couple of days of withdrawal sometimes, but after that, I almost dread going back to the computer.

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But I am glad to be back. It was a great weekend as well as a very emotional one. I performed the wedding of my cousin and her fiance. Both the bride and groom had lost their mothers to breast cancer years ago, so it was a very emotional time for both families, as the bride and groom each had an empty chair with a rose in it to remember their mothers by. My cousin’s mother was my mom’s sister, and I lost my mother to breast cancer when I was eleven years old. Breast cancer has taken the lives of my grandmother, my aunt and my mother, and so there was a lot of emotion at the wedding as a lot of loved ones were no longer physically present, though they were definitely with us in spirit, and I believe that they were watching. So to say the least, I pretty much stumbled my way through the wedding ceremony, trying to keep it together while everyone was crying.

A verse that I have been thinking a lot about, especially in light of sickness and death, is found in 2 Corinthians 5. It is a very beautiful passage, perhaps one of the most beautiful in scripture. But I am particulary fond of verses 1-5:

Our Heavenly Dwelling
1 Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. 2 Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, 3 because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. 4 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now it is God who has made us for this very purpose and has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

Though we labor and groan under the burden of being human and living in an “earthly tent”, we know that we will one day be in a heavenly dwelling. That is the great news for my family members who labored under the disease of breast cancer, but who are now in a heavenly dwelling with Christ. And that is great news for us as followers of Christ who currently experience both the ups and downs of what it means to dwell in an “earthly tent.”

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Pacing Yourself and the Spiritual Life

The Spiritual Life and Athletics
Tod Bolsinger has a great six-part series called Lessons from Tri-ing which chronicles the lessons he learned from training for and competing in the Ironman Canada this last Sunday. His posts are the posts that I wanted to write, and wished I had written as I have been training for the Chicago Marathon in October.

Sometimes when I used to sit and listen to a sermon and the pastor would make constant references to athetics and drawing analogies that compare the Christian life and the athletic life to one another I would sometimes scratch my head. I mean, I have played sports in my life but it sometimes seemed to be a little too much. But recently I have really been thinking about the lessons I have been learning as I train for the Chicago Marathon, and they have taught me valuable truths about the spiritual life, and vice-versa. In 1 Timothy 4:8,Paul says, “For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.” So it has some value, but in comparison to the spiritual life it is wanting. But there is still value in it, and Paul plays on the importance of this metaphor in some of his other writings such as 1 Corinthians 9:24-27.

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One Lesson I Have Been Learning
Probably the biggest lesson that I have been learning has been the importance of pacing myself. It was real easy to look at my training program and to want to go out, “pedal to the metal.” Some days I would find myself wanting to push my program farther and harder than it suggested. I mean, what is up with these two and three mile runs, days after I had run eight or nine miles. I would think, this isn’t helping me out at all. I would also find myself sprinting the last half-mile to quarter mile of a six mile run when I was supposed to be taking it easy. I was not content with pacing myself, resting, or taking it easy. That soon led to a hamstring injury in like week five of my sixteen week program, and I then I found myself having to take a week off, or risk possibly never seeing the starting line of the marathon.

A marathon is a long race. 26.2 miles. And the training program is long as well, 16 weeks, or four months, I don’t know which sounds longer. And this is sort of assuming you have some type of running base already. I am now only 8 weeks away from the race and I feel pretty good about what is happening. Today I completed 18 miles at a pace that would bring me in around 4 hours, but I know that my goal is a sub-four hour marathon, and I know I still have two months of training left. But today was rough. I have never run 18 miles before. The farthest I have run till today was 16 miles. And before that 12 miles and on and on. My body knew I had never run 18 miles before as well, and so the last two miles were miserable as my mind and body battled each other for control. All that to say, this is unchartered territory for me.

I have a goal in mind and the goal is to bring me to a place I have never been before. To get there, I have to trust and rely on those who have gone before me. What they say about nutrition, training, rest, shoes, running shorts, gel packs, etc, etc. There is a community that has gone out before me, and I am relying on them to help me reach my goal. But in order to reach my goal, I have to listen to my body and I have to pace myself. I can’t go out too fast in my training and I can’t push my body too much or I may burn out or cause injury. Half-way through this training I already find myself a little bored and exhausted and I am beginning to realize how the glamour of the marathon has begun to fade and boredom and exhaustion are beginning to set it.

So for now, I have to keep pushing forward even when it doesn’t seem fun, even when the runs seem boring and my legs ache. Deep down inside I know that all of this work is worth it and that it will help bring me closer to my goal and help me accomplish a feat that I have never done before.

Start of the College Year
Every year as school starts and students come flooding back into ministry it takes all the energy that I can to get them to slow down. Beginning with our Leadership Retreat, students tend to bite off more than they can chew, and we are off at blazing speed. But after five years in this ministry it is somewhat easy to predict what will happen. Four weeks into school students will be so exhausted from the fast start and then now have to begin studying for midterms. And our numbers will shrink as many skip church to study. And then they will return a little tired, but then the pace picks up until about week nine when they begin to prepare for finals in week ten of the quarter. And then they disappear again. And this cycle will repeat itself in the Winter and Spring as well. Coming out of the blocks in the Fall seemed like a good idea, but about half way through, most students realize that they have not paced themselves and may not have the stamina to finish the school year strong or where they had anticipated.

This sometimes happens to our faith as well. Many students come to faith in Christ during college and they are enamored at this new relationship and they attend every Bible study they can go to, every worship service that is available. They can not get enough. But then inevitably, months later they come to me disappointed that their early feelings towards their new found faith are no longer there. Pacing. It is everything.

Pacing Yourself
This is not to blame students or point fingers at them, because they are just like me, and they are just like you. Whether you are in school, or in a career, we all come out with our guns firing. And sooner or later, wisdom tells us that we cannot keep that fast pace up and that we are going to have to learn to pace ourselves if we are going to be healthy. And we too do this with our faith. We get excited about certain aspects of our faith and head down those paths as fast as we can run, and sooner or later, we too are burned out and we then begin to wonder, “Where is God?”, or “I can’t hear God’s voice”, “Or I don’t feel like praying”, etc., etc.

The spiritual life, like the athletic life is about pacing. The spiritual life is a long race with ups and downs and if we don’t pace ourselves we can easily find ourselves sitting on the sidelines bored because things don’t seem to be working out, or injured because we have gone out too fast ahead of ourselves. Part of training for a marathon involves experimenting with diet and sleep and shoes and all kinds of things. Part of the spiritual life involves experimenting as well. Trying out different methods of prayer and quiet time and Bible reading. What is most beneficial for one person may not be the most beneficial for the next. But when you do, you will better be able to pace yourself.

My Role as Pastor and Your Role as Community
If I am to be the pastor of these students then it is my job as well to help them in their pacing. Part of my role is instructing them and teaching them, and helping them say no and set boundaries so they don’t get burned out. Part of the reason they get burned out in school and in the spiritual life is that I sometimes don’t do a good job of mentoring them and teaching them how to live in a balanced way. And it is our role as the community and the students role in the ministry as the community as well, to guide and help teach one another. Many students in our ministry are farther along the road in their journeys with God and they can offer valuable insight and discerment in being a Christian, and in pacing yourself for this journey.

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