Archive - September, 2005

Discipleship and Spiritual Formation. Difference?

Christianity Today posts a beauty of a discussion regarding the difference between discipleship and spiritual formation.

This discussion, with Dallas Willard and Richard Foster is great, and I believe they are articulating what many of us are thinking about, wondering about, and just have questions about, but are unable to articulate ourselves. Of course I could be speaking just for myself, but I don’t think I am.

My favorite passage of the discussion/interview:

“You can’t hope to accomplish in 40 days what it takes 40 years to do. There has to be a willingness for barren day after barren day after barren day, a willingness for new forms of worship, new forms of living.”

HT: Tod Bolsinger

Black Eyed Sceva continued….

Way Before The Blog All that is Black Eyed Sceva and good in this world……

Black Eyed Sceva and Model Engine……..no one was like them!

“What’s wrong with nihilism? In a culture of relativism know the context and the content and the consequence of being born again. God only knows my fate, anyway.”-black eyed sceva

This post on this site has brought back a lot of memories.

In 1995 I was standing in the cleared out sanctuary of a church waiting for the headlining Christian band to come up and play. Christian music, at least in the small band, alternative format, was in its prime, and there didn’t seem to be one weekend that went by where there weren’t Christian alternative bands playing in my hometown of Phoenix, AZ. But this night was different. Everyone came out to see the opening band, a local favorite, and between their set and the headlining act, almost everyone went home. Hundreds of kids left, and there were only a handful of us in the room. And I mean, probably 50-60 people.

We were waiting for this band that we had never heard of before, and we figured, well, we might as well stay around. Three guys walk up to the stage, and as they began to play, we knew that we had never heard anything like them before…from the music…and especially to the lyrics. It was a transformative show. And who was this band. Black Eyed Sceva, who went on to become Model Engine.

Their first album,
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Way Before The Flood

was absolutely brilliant. I have played that album thousands of times. And Jeremy Post’s lyrics are unbelievable.

That album was followed by,
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5 Years 50000 Miles Davis

was also unbelievable.

And then that was followed up by,
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The Lean Years Tradition

Obviously I am not giving you much as far as each album and what type of music it was, but I’m not much of a writer when it comes to talking about music. All I know is that this band, and these guys were unbelievable. They transformed the lives of many people through their music, and I have yet to find a band such as them. And Jeremy Post’s lyrics…a course in Church history, theology, philosophy, literature and more. All I know is that they disappeared to soon, and I wish they were still playing.

Why am I writing this? Mainly because this link was sent to me by my good friend Aaron, and apparently I wasn’t alone in my admiration of this band, or of Jeremy Post.

Organic intellectuals: I’m learning something new every day….

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I was reading over at Tony Jones yesterday, and came across this idea of organic intellectuals, something that I did not know about before. One can learn plenty of new things at Tony’s site.

The below was taken from this site.

Organic Intellectuals
This brings me to my second theme. Gramsci saw the role of the intellectual as a crucial one in the context of creating a counter hegemony. He was clear that the transformation from capitalism to socialism required mass participation. There was no question that socialism could be brought about by an elite group of dedicated revolutionaries acting for the working class. It had to be the work of the majority of the population conscious of what they were doing and not an organised party leadership. The revolution led by Lenin and the Bolsheviks in Russia in 1917 was not the model suitable for Western Europe or indeed any advanced industrialised country. The Leninist model took place in a backward country with a huge peasantry and a tiny working class. The result was that the mass of the population were not involved. For Gramsci, mass consciousness was essential and the role of the intellectual was crucial.

It is important at this juncture to note that when Gramsci wrote about intellectuals, he was not referring solely to the boffins and academics that sat in ivory towers or wrote erudite pieces for academic journals only read by others of the same ilk. His definition went much further and he spread his net much wider.

Gramsci’s notebooks are quite clear on the matter. He writes that “all men are intellectuals” [and presumably women] “but not all men have in society the function of intellectuals”. What he meant by that was that everyone has an intellect and uses it but not all are intellectuals by social function. He explains this by stating that “everyone at some time fries a couple of eggs or sews up a tear in a jacket, we do not necessarily say that everyone is a cook or a tailor”. Each social group that comes into existence creates within itself one or more strata of intellectuals that gives it meaning, that helps to bind it together and helps it function. They can take the form of managers, civil servants, the clergy, professors and teachers, technicians and scientists, lawyers, doctors etc. Essentially, they have developed organically alongside the ruling class and function for the benefit of the ruling class. Gramsci maintained that the notion of intellectuals as being a distinct social category independent of class was a myth.

He identified two types of intellectuals – traditional and organic. Traditional intellectuals are those who do regard themselves as autonomous and independent of the dominant social group and are regarded as such by the population at large. They seem autonomous and independent. They give themselves an aura of historical continuity despite all the social upheavals that they might go through. The clergy are an example of that as are the men of letters, the philosophers and professors. These are what we tend to think of when we think of intellectuals. Although they like to think of themselves as independent of ruling groups, this is usually a myth and an illusion. They are essentially conservative allied to and assisting the ruling group in society.

The second type is the organic intellectual. This is the group mentioned earlier that grows organically with the dominant social group, the ruling class, and is their thinking and organising element. For Gramsci it was important to see them for what they were. They were produced by the educational system to perform a function for the dominant social group in society. It is through this group that the ruling class maintains its hegemony over the rest of society.

Having said that what was required for those who wished to overthrow the present system was a counter hegemony, a method of upsetting the consensus, of countering the ‘common sense’ view of society, how could this be done?

Gramsci, in his Notebooks, maintained that what was required was that not only should a significant number of ‘traditional’ intellectuals come over to the revolutionary cause (Marx, Lenin and Gramsci were examples of this) but also the working class movement should produce its own organic intellectuals. Remember that Gramsci said that all men were intellectuals but not all men have the function of intellectuals in society. He went on to point out that “there is no human activity from which every form of intellectual participation can be excluded” and that everyone, outside their particular professional activity, “carries on some form of intellectual activity -, participates in a particular conception of the world, has a conscious line of moral conduct, and therefore contributes to sustain a conception of the world or to modify it, that is, to bring into being new modes of thought”. This sounds as if he was exaggerating the possibilities but what he was really trying to convey is that people have the capability and the capacity to think. The problem was how to harness those capabilities and capacities.

Gramsci saw one of his roles as assisting in the creation of organic intellectuals from the working class and the winning over of as many traditional intellectuals to the revolutionary cause as possible. He attempted this through the columns of a journal called L’Ordine Nuovo (New Order), subtitled “a weekly review of Socialist culture”. This journal came out at the same time as the huge spontaneous outbreak of industrial and political militancy that swept Turin in 1919. This outbreak mirrored events throughout the industrial world that shook the very foundations of capitalist society.

Gramsci’s insistence on the fundamental importance of the ideological struggle to social change meant that this struggle was not limited to consciousness raising but must aim at consciousness transformation – the creation of a socialist consciousness. It was not something that could be imposed on people but must arise from their actual working lives. The intellectual realm, therefore, was not to be seen as something confined to an elite but to be seen as something grounded in everyday life. Gramsci wrote that “the mode of being of the new intellectual can no longer consist in eloquence – but in active participation in practical life, as constructor, organiser, “permanent persuader” and not just a simple orator-” [Gramsci 1971 p10]

The creation of working class intellectuals actively participating in practical life, helping to create a counter hegemony that would undermine existing social relations was Gramsci’s contribution to the development of a philosophy that would link theory with practice. His philosophy was a direct counter to those elitist and authoritarian philosophies associated with fascism and Stalinism. His approach was open and non-sectarian. He believed in the innate capacity of human beings to understand their world and to change it. In his Notebooks, he asked the question: “is it better to “think”, without having a critical awareness, – or, on the other hand, is it better to work out consciously and critically one’s own conception of the world?”. He wanted revolutionaries to be critical and made it clear that “the starting point of critical elaboration is the consciousness of what one really is -”. [Gramsci 1971 p323]

The role of informal educators in local communities links up with Gramsci’s ideas on the role of the intellectual. The educator working successfully in the neighbourhood and with the local community has a commitment to that neighbourhood. They are not ‘here today and gone tomorrow’. They may have always lived in the area and have much in common with the local people or they may not. What is important is that they develop relationships with the people they work with that ensures that wherever they go, they are regarded as part of the community (‘one of us’). “They can strive to sustain people’s critical commitment to the social groups with whom they share fundamental interests. Their purpose is not necessarily individual advancement, but human well-being as a whole” (Smith 1994 p127).

I Repent also…

Good Stuff

Donald Miller in CT

As you know, author Donald Miller is coming out to our college ministry, The Quest in October. Here is an interview with him in Christianity Today.

Finding God in Odd Places

Bell and McClaren…..

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Veteran Youth Minister Tony Myles has a posting at his other site that is a “loose transcript” of a conversation he had with Rob Bell and Brian McClaren over breakfast during a Zondervan gathering.

Compiling lists….

Back in January, TIME Magazine compiled a list of The 25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America. It was a controversial list in many ways, but I suppose that all depended upon where you were coming from, and what you determined to be influential. The list seemed to weigh heavily on the side of Conservative-Political-Evangelicals, with the usual names making the list.

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Now I see that RELEVANT Magazine has compiled a list of the The 12 People Who Risked It All To Make A Difference. This comes in the issue titled, “The Vision Issue” which I suppose is assuming that these 12 people are visionaries for various reasons. Some people made the list that I would have expected, and some I had never even heard of, while some I wondered why they were on the list.

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Compiling lists is a tricky endeavor. No one is ever happy. It reminds me of the sports talk shows I listen to in the car. They can spend hours debating who should be in the Hall of Fame. Which World Series Team is the best ever, and can you really compare different eras. Things like this. Things that are very subjective.

The outcome of a list can depend on things like one’s age, social circle, etc., etc. I’m wondering if I should make my own list right now, since I’m not completely happy with any of the lists I have seen, except for a few names. But making me happy is not the point, nor should it be the point.

But let’s just look at the names that TIME and RELEVANT compiled. Not that this is a fair comparison of course, because they are listing different things. Those who are influential vs. those who risked it all to make a difference. And the reading base of these two magazines probably couldn’t be more different. But I guess that is my point. Maybe we are heading down different paths….that is…maybe Christianity is quite polarized right now, which would be nothing new, but it seems like it is becoming more and more, glaringly apparent. But this is my own wondering….

Here are some names: (and if you are wondering who some of them are, GOOGLE ‘em) And the names are not in any order of importance.

RELEVANT MAGAZINE
Rob Bell
Josh Jackson
Jim Wallis
Jon Foreman
Mike Cina
Kayne West
Sonny Sandoval
Brandon Ebel
Curtis Martin
Barbara Nicolosi
Bono
Pete Greig

TIME MAGAZINE
Rick Warren
James Dobson
Chuck Colson
JI Packer
Mark Noll
Bill Hybels
Billy Graham
Rick Santorum
Jay Sekulow
Michael Gerson
Douglas Coe
David Barton
plus 15 more…

Like I said, this is not a fair comparison, and from a statician or sociologist viewpoint, I would be in error for comparing this data with one another. But the point is not that. The point is the difference in names that come to mind when one thinks of Christianity, and those who make a difference, or are influential, or are visionaries. And I wonder if we were to ask the same groups to compile each other’s list for one another, if we would just not end up with the same group of names. The people who compiled the TIME list would put the same names down for the RELEVANT list and vice-versa.

Kicking off the Fall School Year….and getting confused with a Texas politician….

One….I am counting down the days until all of my students return. Most of the schools are back in session, and though this is a year round ministry, I am super excited about having everyone back when UCLA returns to school.

We will begin this Fall with a Welcome Back Worship Night on September 28 at 8pm in Evans Chapel. And then the following week on Wednesday, October 5 at 8pm in Evans Chapel, we will begin our Fall series as I start with the topic of Journeying in our Faith.

For more info. about our ministry

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Go to The Quest

And a whole other tangent, I was beginning to wonder why I was getting so much traffic from the site Burnt Orange Report: News, Politics and Fun from Deep in the Heart of Texas. I mean, I am a Texan, but this was suddenly all cleared up when I realized the site belongs to politician Rhett Smith. I knew there was a politician out there by that name as my brother had pointed out to me. And I had been to his site. But why all the traffic all of a sudden.

Well I went to his site and read the following:

September 12, 2005

Rhett Smith to Run for Governor
By Karl-Thomas Musselman

I wasn’t sure if I should have posted this in the BOR Humor category or not, but then again, I could put most gubernatorial posts on either side of the aisle in that category. But Rhett Smith, former candidate for President, then Congress against Lamar Smith (and of the infamous “Wall of Tortillas” he wants UDems to build down I-35), and then candidate for Mayor of San Antonio, now wants to run for Governor. As a Republican.

Of course, he’ll have to face some stiff competition. From Perry or Strayhorn. Or maybe Kinky Friedman. Or Chris Bell, or John Sharp, or Felix Alvarado. Or the biggest threat, Jennifer Gale.

Of course, he will have to do without his old campaign site www.rhettsmith.com as it now belongs to Los Angeles Grad Student who’s much cuter and going to the “God Blog Convention 2005″. For what it’s worth.

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Hilarious…….Politics is not in my future.

The role of clergy in the online reformation….

Will Samson is a great blogger. I love reading his blogs because I believe he writes about things that are a bit off the more usual trodden path of bloggers. And his blogs are usually calling attention to things that are not always that popular or hip in Christian evangelical circles, such as issues regarding poverty, race, debt-relief, economics, non-partisan politics.

So this is why I post this interesting blog entry by him.

Ebay, Skype and the Role of the Clergy.

Here is an excerpt from Will:

While I am not sounding the death knell on paid church staff – far from it – it seems to me that the role and substance of that role will be changing dramatically. Rather than being keepers of a guaranteed epistemology, pastors and priests will increasingly be playing roles of networkers and relationship builders. Ironically, I have begun to wonder if the increasing ability to tie people together relationally won’t return the clergy to something more akin to a parish priest?

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