Archive - April, 2005

The Countdown to Narnia begins…December 9th

I won’t be sitting in line months or weeks, or even days early for any movie, but I definitely will be gearing up with excitement each passing day as the release of the Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe gets closer.

I just hope that the movie will be able to capture even a part of the magic of these books.

Check out these short featurettes.

He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. — Jim Elliot (missionary)

beyondthegates.jpgI think it’s about time that someone has made a movie about the lives of Jim Elliot, Pete Fleming, Ed McCully, Nate Saint and Roger Youderian. I just didn’t expect the major driving force and financier behind it to be someone who has never been to a movie in their life. Check out this fascinating story in Christianity Today about Mart Green, who is now founder and CEO of Mardel.

The movie, Beyond the Gates re-tells the story of these five men who were speared and hacked to death by the Auca Indians in Ecudador, after some attempts at befriending them.

Probably the most famous of them was Jim Elliot, who was married then, to the now present Christian author and speaker, Elisabeth Elliot.

Their story is an amazing story, and I’m interested at what this film will be like.

A New Kind of Old Christian

Well put piece by Brian McClaren.

He’s right. When we refer to what a Christian should look like, who are we talking about? I know most of us would say Jesus, but is that really how we live our Christian lives. Depending on where you stand at times, can often color your outlook. I see Christianity very differently as a graduate of Fuller Theological Seminary than someone from another seminary. I see Christianity very differently as a member of a PCUSA church, than someone from a non-denominational church. I see Christianity very differently not only living in America, but also living in California, in contrast to the rest of the world and the rest of the country.

I agree that there must be both “pioneers and settlers” in Christianity, and I think that the two help bring stability to the whole.

Wal Mart Seems to be stuck in the middle

The topic of Wal Mart was a lighthing rod on my recent mission trip to Mexico, and so I would be interested in your perspective on this article, and on this topic.

There are those on one side who think Wal Mart practices business in an unethical way from low wages, to sweatshops. And on the other side are those who believe Wal Mart promotes family values and brings an affordable alternative for families.

So I wonder if the question is not really about Wal Mart, but more about capitalism in general. Not a question that says capitalism is all bad or good, but rather that asks, what are the ethics involved in capitalism? How can one operate ethically in a consumer society that always demands the lowest price, at the expense of a working class? How does one operate ethically in a system where anonymity is commonplace: Where we buy our products without any thought to the worker?

I was told I should read The Soul of Capitalism last month while I was standing on the top of the larget pyramid in Mexico, and looking out over the new Wal Mart. And I am definitely speaking out of my area of knowledge when it comes to economics, so I know that I must read more up on this topic.

For now, I will not ban Wal Mart, or stop shopping there. I am not informed enough on this issue for me to make any sweeping statements. Though I have to say, I probably only go 1-2 times a year if that. But I know that I must be made more aware of moral responsibility as a Christian, as a consumer.

Discipleship: Coming Out of the Crowd and Ascending the Mountain

“If we would follow Jesus we must take certain definite steps. The first step, which follows the call, cuts the disciple off from his previous existence. … The first step places the disciple in the situation where faith is possible. If he refuses to follow and stays behind, he does not learn how to believe.”
–Dietrich Bonhoeffer/ The Cost of Discipleship

Discipleship has been a topic that I have been wrestling with a lot. Mainly because discipleship is such a buzzword (much like community). Everyone talks about wanting discipleship in the church, in their lives, but sometimes I wonder if we really understand what it means. We have ideas, but I think that lot of our ideas about discipleship are more cultural, than they are Biblical. We tend to think of discipleship in terms of steps, which in return will produce results. Immediate results. We want it now. Instant discipleship. Eugene Peterson discusses this issue in his book A Long Obedience in the Same Direction: Discipleship in an Instant Society. The title sums up the message of discipleship, which is a “long obedience in the same direction.” Interesting that Peterson uses the phrase of the German philosopherFriedrich Nietzsche from his book, Beyond Good and Evil, where he states, “The essential thing in heaven and earth is . . . that there should be a long obedience in the same direction; there thereby results . . . something which has made life worth living.” Discipleship is not something that allows for shortcuts. If shortcuts is what we want, than discipleship is not for us. It does not allow for that.

The word disciple (mathete in Greek) means someone who is a “learner…who is apprenticed to another.” In discipleship, we are learners, who learn from Jesus Christ. When we follow Him, and take up the call of discipleship, we become apprenticed to him. Like any apprenticeship, it involves close study, long hours, trials, experiments, successes and failures. It involves a close intimacy, often involving one on one learning, or small group learning. Apprenticeship is just not something that can be done in a large group. Discipleship becomes impersonal and non-intimate when it takes place in a large crowd. I would even argue that discipleship for the most part can not take place in a crowd.

You understand this in your own life. When you were in college (or those of you in it now) you may have had a large lecture hall with hundreds of students, and you were lucky if you even showed up to class. Now my students just take the notes from online, and may occassionally show up to the class. Not much apprenticeship or learning takes place in this environment. That is why when students become more serious about their major and begin to think about graduate school or a future career, they tend to want to take up a teacher assistant position, or intern in an environment where they can get hands on experience. The same is true of discipleship. We only truly learn what it means to follow Christ when we move out of the crowd and into a more intimate and relational environement where learning, and apprenticeship can truly take place. There are many reasons for this, though I will take them up in another post.

But the call of Jesus Christ upon our life is a call that moves us out of the crowd and into a relationship with Himself and others, where we live and learn together what it truly means to follow Christ. No text teaches more thoroughly on discipleship in my opinion than the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5-7. It begins:

Matthew 5:1-2 (NIV)
The Beatitudes
1Now when he saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, 2and he began to teach them saying:”

There is this idea where Jesus sees the crowds that are now following Him. And who can blame them. His popularity by this point has begun to grow, as he has moved from town to town healing people, casting out demons. And so the crowds follow Him. But for true discipleship to take place, I believe Jesus sees that there must be this calling out of disciples away from the crowd, away from the masses. And so the passage again says (this time in the Message):

Matthew 5:1-2 (The Message)
You’re Blessed
1When Jesus saw his ministry drawing huge crowds, he climbed a hillside. Those who were apprenticed to him, the committed, climbed with him. Arriving at a quiet place, he sat down 2and taught his climbing companions. This is what he said:”

Interesting nuances that Peterson brings out in the text. Jesus sees huge crowds following Him, and so he climbs a mountain, calling out to those who are truly committed to Him, to follow Him. This is where the crowd and disciples are separated. This is where committment and discipleship is separated from group thinking and popularity contests.

These disciples whom He has called will be His companions that He lives in close, intimate relationship with. He will be their teacher, and they will be apprenticed to Him as they learn what it means to be a disciple. I believe this is how discipleship often begins. Jesus has put a call upon your life, and He is asking you to step out of the crowd and away from the masses so that you can learn from Him. Discipleship can not be learned in the crowd, because it requires no committment…because there is no relationship in a crowd. But moving out of the crowd into a group, or into a one on one partnership, requires relationship. It requires committment.

Jesus has called you out of the crowd, up to the mountain so that He can begin a relationship with you, and teach you all that He knows. Not so that you can keep it to yourself, but rather, so you can go back down the mountain and become a teacher to those in the crowd. It is interesting that a mountain is what He climbed, and that those who wanted to learn from Him followed Him up, while the others stayed below. Climbing a mountain is hard work, so most of us don’t climb. Discipleship is hard work, so most of us don’t become a disciple.

The beautiful thing about this passage, and about discipleship is that it requires you not to live up on the mountain, only soaking in mountain top, camp experiences. Rather, it requrires of you that the true work of discipleship is in the world. So the disciples will not stay on the mountain, but will descend, and will go out into the world. Discipleship is a call upon your life that demands of you to go back out into the world, but this time as an apprentice to Jesus Christ, and not someone who is lost in the crowd. Jesus does not forget about the masses, but rather has given us some of the responsibility of being a disciple to them.

But more on this another time.

As we begin this dialogue on discipleship, there are some books I want to recommend. I have already listed above, Peterson’s book, “A Long Obedience…….” No one writes better on discipleship than Eugene Peterson. Where some pastors and theologians are content with programming and quick steps, and instant salvation, Peterson understands the long, hard, grueling work of following Christ, and of being a disciple and making disciples. That’s why I recommend and love his new book, Christ Plays in Ten Thousand Places: A Conversation in Spiritual Theology. It is amazing. Like discipleship, this book is a slow, long read, that must be thought through, and read over and over again. I must also talk about Dietrich Bonhoeffer because his work, The Cost of Discipleship, is one of the seminal works in this area. It transformed my life when I was in college, and it continues to do that.

Looking forward to the conversation…..

Changes to our website, blogs…and online sermons.

We are about to make some big changes here at The Quest, and the Director’s Corner. Jared Kleier, the amazing student who has been doing our website has been working hard on a new design. I think our current one is great, but that’s what separates me from Jared. Jared is able to see the future…how to advance the site…how to plan for more technological advances. Where all I do is click on an icon and add a blog. Thank God that Jared does our site, and not me. The new design will be more clean, simple to navigate, and will have added features. So stay tuned for that switch in the next two weeks.

We will also fix our address, removing the “8000″ number. And we are working on an RSS feed. But you will still be able to access the new site with the old address, as it will be instantly re-directed. But stay tuned for this new and exciting move.

Also…we are beginning to upload all sermons from last week and the present onto our Media Page. This is a great advance for us that has been a long time coming. I don’t particularly love hearing myself preach, but at least now we will have wider access.

Thanks for visiting our site. Jared, thanks for all the hardwork. We hope you will like the new changes in the future.

The new Pope…good post from Summa Aesthetica

Cameron, who is Summa Aesthetica, and I, talked on the phone yesterday about the selection of the new Pope, and we both came to the conclusion: That this must be the right choice, because everyone in the mainstream media is up in arms about the selection. They’ve made conservatism to be some degenerative, and dangerous disesase. It is just so obvious that the secular world does not only not get conservative, Christian people, or their values, they are almost stupified, and fearful I think over the amount of power the Pope, and conservatives have in this world. Power in the sense, that Christianity is able to draw people together, in a unique way, to live a different life than what the world pushes for. That scares people. And after watching the morning TV show, “The View” this morning, it was obvious that the world doesn’t get it, and they would rather bash the Pope if possible.

For some great reading on the new Pope, check out all the postings by Hugh Hewitt.

Cameron posted a great, and simple post this morning…below:

Tuesday, April 19, 2005

Habemus papam!

(Preemptive apology…this post is necessarily short due to other writing deadlines)

We have a pope! Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger was elected today by his fellow Cardinals to serve as John Paul II’s successor. He chose the name Benedict XVI, which could be in honor of the previous Benedict, the WWI era pope who was a staunch opponent of the War and served as a reconciling figure between conservative and modernist elements of the Church. Or, perhaps he intended to invoke the memory of Benedict the great monastic figure whose rule became the standard pattern for Western monasticism (this was my initial impression before I read anything about Benedict XV, and it may be way off the mark).

The big question that is floating around: what should we think about the new pope? Was this a good choice? I am cautiously optimistic, for a few reasons.

I would like to think that we can be reasonably hopeful, trusting that the selection was in some way guided by Providence. I do not want to be too rosy on that point–there are plenty of examples that might give one pause.

Also, to quote a professor whom I respect: “I am not entirely sure what to think of him yet, but he has one thing going for him…all the right people hate him.” The fact that he makes certain people nervous is a good sign. While I do not count myself an archconservative, I do not want someone in the driver’s seat of the biggest church in the world who likes change for change sake. I am glad he is counted as a conservative, especially by people who would sell the soul of the church for the sake of relevance.

Finally, if he was a trusted advisor and friend of John Paul II, that says something important. I am more than willing to support Benedict XVI. May God guide him as he leads the Roman Church.

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addiction to the internet and fasting

I have always claimed that I’m not addicted to much…not tv, electronics, media, etc. Though books is definitely a strong addiction for me. But books are okay right…it’s okay to be addicted to them, as long as I’m not addicted to anything else. (I’m joking of course). Well…then our internet at church went down last Thursday during our move across the street. And as of today it’s still not up because of the damage caused to it during the move. So this blog comes to you courtesy of T-Mobile and Starbucks.

But what i’m really realizing about addiction, and more specifically mine, is that we really don’t often know what we are addicted to, or what drives or compels us, until that thing is gone. I didn’t think I was addicted to the internet, but since it has been gone, it feels like my life is falling apart to a certain degree. I feel like I can’t work. I feel like I can’t communicate. i feel like my life is on hold. I feel like I am out of touch, and now living in a primitive society without technological advances.

These are certainly exaggerations in my mind, because life goes on. But in hindsight of Lent and Easter, I am beginning to really appreciate more and more the importance of fasting from certain things in our life. We do not fast for legalistic reasons, but we fast to reposition our focus on Jesus Christ, and to make sure that He is the “driving force”, the one who compels us in the way that we live. Rather than tv, music, fashion, interent….or yes, even books.

So after not blogging for several days, I have realized my addiction to the internet and to blogging. I have realized that we live in a culture that demands more and more from us, and once we can’t deliver, then we are passed over. That is a hard compulsion, a hard force to fight, especially when our focus on Christ is in fierce competition with the world around us.

Hopefully our internet at church will be up and running today or tomorrow. Hopefully I can get on a better schedule, and blog like I want. But hopefully, I can learn to be in the position where Jesus Christ is guiding my life, and not the internet, and affirmation, and feedback from the blogs, from the media, from those around me.

What compels you? What drives you? Is it Jesus Christ?

The best theological bookstores around

As you know from my last post I have been having a book crisis….I’m trying to reduce my number of books and make a good effort at determining what books I really need and want, and what are simply on the shelf because they look good, or because my ego and pride won’t allow me to get rid of them.

So I made an attempt yesterday at selling some books. About 300 of them. Now most of these are old. Really old. In fact, I probably didn’t buy most of them….and the paper is pretty bad on a lot of them. And a lot are just out of date in regards to some finding and studies in theological areas.

Drum roll please…..I got $260 for them. This is good if you haven’t tried selling old books before. And I guess if I was a good son I would split some of that money with my dad…or give it all to him since a lot of the books were ones that I inherited when he got rid of large chunks of his theological library.

All that to say, that I sold them at Archives bookstore in Pasadena. This is the most amazing bookstore if you have never been. They have the best, and largest selection of new and used books that I have ever seen. That is, in theology, philosophy, spirituality, etc. Archives is a store that sells and buys only books in these areas. So if you are looking to just browse for hours, or buy, this is the place. It is a dream for most book lovers.

The other great bookstore in the area is located at Fuller Theological Seminary.

Unlike a lot of Christian bookstores that you go to, these two stores carry all the great books, and you don’t have to sift through a lot of the garbage that sometimes makes it in some major Christian bookstores. You know what I mean.

Visit these two stores, and you won’t want to go anywhere else.

Moving……books, books, books…and our identity….

Life has been pretty busy recently…I am currently only about 10 weeks away from getting married..yeah….currently in the midst of closing escrow on our new house….and in the midst of moving my church office across the street as we will be in construction for about a year and a half.

And you know what that means…packing up books. What a pain. Moving books is a pain. And the more I move them, the more I realize the more I don’t need some of them that sit on my shelf. I mean…really, when was the last time I read some of those books. But man….they look great on those shelves…right?

So realizing that I could do without some of my 2,500 plus books, I decided to pare some of them down so that I could sell them.

This is a tough chore. Very hard to let go of some things, but I realized a lot of it boils down to my pride…my ego. Honestly…I want people to walk into my office, my home…and think…man, Rhett is really, really smart. And that’s so not a good reason to hang onto books.

Why is it that I find a lot of my identity in books? For me it’s books…intellectualism. For you, it might be something entirely different. But we all place our value in some crazy things, and then get build our identity around it. Clothes. Looks. Gadgets. Relationships. For me, it just happens to be books which is probably a weakness for many seminary and graduate students.

And whenever I come to the point that I have put books..my library ahead of other things…such as God, I am reminded of a story from early church history. It is a story surprising that I cannot even locate through Google. So if you can, please let me know.

The early church father Jerome amassed such a great library that he had a dream one night. He appears in his dream before the throne of Christ, with Christ on the throne, and all his books in the background. And God asks him, “Do you love me more than these books.” To which Jerome says, “I love you more.” Jesus then picks up a flog and proceeds to flog Jerome on his back. So much so that the angels tell Him to stop. When Jerome wakes up the next morning he has stripes on his back. He then sells his library and gives all the money to the poor.

Jerome will later on collect a great library, but will be careful to make sure his heart is not in the same place as before.

I can not track the story down right now…but if you can…that would be awesome. It is something I remember from early church history.

And if you can link this story to me, I will send you a free copy of our college band’s worship album.

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